Marco Rubio suggested that they could impeach Hillary Clinton if we convict Trump
Rubio’s question did not mention Clinton by name, but he alluded to the “Lock her up!” chants targeting Clinton that Donald Trump encouraged as a candidate in their 2016 presidential contest.
“Is it not true that under this new precedent, a future House facing partisan pressure to ‘lock her up’ could impeach a former secretary of state, and a future Senate forced to put her on trial and potentially disqualify from any future office?” Rubio asked the impeachment managers and Trump’s attorneys.
In response, Rep. Jamie B. Raskin (D-Md.) noted that Trump was impeached while still in office for conduct while he was the president. The hypothetical, he said, “has no bearing on this case.”
Trump attorney Michael van der Veen disagreed, warning that voting to convict a former president would lead to impeachment proceedings against other ex-officials.The Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/12/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/
“It could happen to a lot of people. And that’s not the way this is supposed to work,” van der Veen said
Trump was impeached while he was president of the United States. The Senate is now trying him because the Constitution says the Senate has the authority to try all impeachments. While I don’t know if it’s possible to impeach someone while they are out of office, Jamie Raskin is clearly correct is saying that such a possibility is not related to this case.
Rubio’s question was a threat. It certainly wasn’t asked to find information because even Rubio isn’t that ignorant. If we convict Donald Trump for the crimes that everyone knows he committed, Republicans will continue to do what they have been doing for more than two decades, which is trying to convict Hillary Clinton of something.
Folks, they’ll do it anyway. Republican are enemies of the United States and we should not think that appeasing them will make them relent.
This is where I live. I retyped for you a conversation from NextDoor, which is a neighborhood-based social media service that’s supposed to be non-political. This is from the Liberty Spring neighborhood in Suffolk Virginia. Emphasis mine.
Your political arguments: I said this earlier on a political post where my friends and neighbors were arguing, but it was deleted.
Don’t believe the media. Everything we see and hear is being controlled. This is what they want. United we stand but divided we fall. We are all family. Love your neighbor and forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing. Do not pass judgement. You can’t control what people are brainwashed by(sic). Just trust God, he has a plan and I believe he will bring us all back together.
I agree! Always remember, God is in Control. It is his will. I just pray, people will know him and turn to him. These are trying times! The media is corrupt. I agree, don’t be brainwashed.
@person3 talking about being brainwashed by the media while in the same breath throwing the “word of god” around.
If you still believe media as truthful well then I’m lost for words.Well said.
We are to forgive and GOD is in control, however, GOD also gives us the discernment between right and wrong. There are good consequences and bad consequences depending your decision(s).
First, Trumpers would deny it was real
Then they’d say it was part of Trump’s plan to get Putin to trust him, revealing how far Trump would go because he loves America so much
Then they’d say it’s nobody’s business what Trump likes
Then there would a huge increase in demand for Russian mail order brides, especially in Alabama, Arizona, and Texas
So Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to release the pee tape. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our lonely conservative gentlemen
Recently, I waited for hours in a hospital waiting room while my appendix was rupturing. My wife and I joke about how if I were Black, we would have assumed that I would have been treated better if I were White. So I don’t always agree with “If they were Black” or “If they were White” hypotheticals.
But to look at these pictures and imagine that these smirking terrorists would be treated about the same had they been Black would simply be absurd. I challenge anyone to look at these gleeful criminals defiling our nation’s capital as police look on, some laughing with them, and tell me that they would have been treated about as well if they were Black
The reason I would have been reluctant to pack the Supreme Court is fear of setting a precedent. It would have been the idea that if we do this, then they’ll do that, and we don’t want to start down that path.
That fear is nullified because I no longer believe that any restraint on the part of Democrats will influence Republicans. No courtesy that we extend will be reflected in kind. No attempt to preserve our norms and traditions will make Republicans regard those norms and traditions with reverence.
Quoting a friend on social media
“We should expect nothing but bare-knuckled realpolitik from Republicans from now on; we have to stop being shocked. This is the reality of the GOP moving forward. Nothing is sacred to them, even the sanctity of the vote or the stability of the republic.” https://mastodon.social/@monkeyborg
Some Republicans still put the United States above Trumpism, but they no longer drive the party. It is no longer an exaggeration that Trump could shoot someone on 5th Avenue. They are murdering us in the streets.
I no longer fear setting dangerous precedents with Republicans. Now I fear not setting them.
I wish I was more pundit-like. Maybe if I was smarter I would understand why Trump still has so much of the military vote. Maybe I would understand why there are people out there who don’t understand why someone in the military would vote for Joe Biden. But I don’t.
Here’s what I know. I don’t have to be main stream media junkie to know these things. These should be indisputable
- Trump took almost two years to visit the troops overseas. He finally planned a trip when the pressure was too much for him to ignore.
- He skipped visiting the American cemetery in France, and blamed it on the weather. When he got home he skipped visiting Arlington on Veterans day, saying he was too busy making phone calls
- Trump got into a public argument with a Gold Star family. When the father of Captain Humayun Khan said that Trump never sacrificed anything, Trump said, “I think I’ve made a lot of sacrifices”
- Donald Trump lied repeatedly to America’s military. He said he said they didn’t get a pay raise in ten years before he became president.
- He declared an emergency so he could use money from military projects to pay for his wall
- He threatened to veto a military pay raise over Confederate base names
- He fired Lt. Col. Vindman
- He repeatedly fired military leaders and insulted them afterward
- Young Donald Trump joked about getting out of Vietnam. He thought it was funny that real soldiers died in his place
This is not a man who respects the military.
Every now and then I have the urge to waste my time and look into an accusation that Trump supporters make about Democrats playing unfairly. They’re making accusations now to justify their attempts to stop the count of legally cast votes. Occasionally, their accusations have some grain of truth.
But I remember birtherism. I remember Ted Cruz boasting about shutting down the government and then denying he did so. I remember that Donald Trump is the most dishonest and corrupt president in American history, who has told thousands of lies while profiting from his office. I remember Trump’s central campaign promise that Mexico would pay for the wall, and how when that didn’t happen Republicans supported him declaring a bullshit national emergency so he can steal money from the military to build it. I remember him breaking an explicit promise to the Dreamers because he wasn’t happy with how many American tax dollars were going into his fucking wall. I remember how Republicans blocked hearings for Merrick Garland over a bullshit rule that they made up about not seating a Supreme Court justice in an election year, and how they broke that rule with fanfare and glee by pushing through Amy Coney Barrett, one of the most unqualified Supreme Court justices in recent history only a month before an election so she can support Trump if tries to win by cheating.
It’s time for me to stop giving a fuck about the accusations of Trump supporters any more. It’s time for me stop wondering if there’s a grain of truth in their lies. We’ve had more than four years of non-stop lies, corruption, and some of the dirtiest tricks ever played by an American political party. Some Republicans have been so disgusted by their own party that they’ve turned on Trump and his supporters. Those Republicans still have some credibility. Trump supporters have none.
The absurd untruths in Kavanaugh’s opinion regarding Wisconsin, along with the thousands of lies told by Trump and the flip-flopping of Senate Republicans regarding their bullshit rule about seating of a Supreme Court justice during an election year strongly suggests that dishonesty is more than just a necessity for Republicans to do business. It’s a feature.
Each time their supporters agree with their blatant lies, they further cement their loyalty. They show that they’re willing to follow Republicans along any path as long as they appeal to their anger and nationalism.
We’ve reached a point where Republicans would have fewer supporters if their lies were more believable.
This is truly Orwellian.
Donald Trump makes big bets that he usually wins, but sometimes are disastrous.
As a businessman, when he wins, he cheats his taxes, takes the profit, and brags about how smart he is. When he loses, he declares bankruptcy, other people lose their jobs and investments, and he brags about how smart he is.
As a president, when he wins, America does well, anti-Trumpers like me get frustrated, and Trump brags about how smart he is. When he loses, hundreds of thousands of Americans die, millions more lose their income, Trump blames everyone else, and he brags about how smart he is.